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Proposed Taliban talks closed for now
Pakistan News.Net Thursday 26th November, 2009
The US proposal to hold talks with the Afghan Taliban leadership, with Pakistan and Saudi Arabia playing the role of mediators, has fallen apart.
The US Central Investigation Agency had been working to hold secret talks with the Taliban leadership, with the help of the Saudi leadership and the General Intelligence Directorate of Saudi Arabia and the Pakistani leadership and the Inter Services Intelligence.
But with the Taliban hell-bent upon fighting the US-led international forces, the initiatives have failed to yield any desired result.
The News has quoted sources as saying the massive trust deficit between the two sides plus Taliban’s obstinacy had rendered the talks useless.
The US recently said it would not be opposed to the idea of holding talks with the Taliban to establish peace in the Afghanistan region.
Of late, the US intelligence services have been attempting to encourage the Taliban to discontinue their ties with Al-Qaeda.
However, sources privy to the issue, have said only middle rank Taliban leaders had agreed to talks, and any decision made by these leaders would not have made any major impact on Afghan insurgency. Email this story to a friend
Comments on this story
Anonymous 11-26-09, 08:33 PM |
Taliban decides not to talk with US
Derr.. Taliban, our blessed students only want to study death and jihad.. Of course there is no way of reasoning unless you wish to be their slaves! Pakistan, tried to talk, only to find that millions have suffered in swat valley where Taliban has had yet another chance t show us their cruel view of the world and despise for Gods creation
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hhh hasan 11-26-09, 11:20 PM |
Taliban's momentum, occupiers facing defeat
Already in the ninth year... the Soviets tried unsuccessfully for ten years then withdrew in humiliation, bankrupted and then the end of the united/Union of the Soviet.....
Instead of escalating the illegal and costly war, withdraw now. The Afghans simply don’t need that corrupt democracy and foreign intervention in their land.
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Wang Lu 11-27-09, 04:09 AM |
Walk the talk
Let’s make love and not war. Exhaust all means to end this wars in Iraq, Afghanistan and elsewhere. People like the Taliban should know when they are conquered.
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` ~galljdaj+ 11-27-09, 06:20 AM |
The 'blackwater death squad talks'???
The talks planned by the right of the lefthanded killers are being described as '...hell bent taliban...' . Well those of us that have the ability to think have questions about Our Government’s 'words vs deeds' and where Our Leaders are directing the killings of people!
We have clear evidence of the 'Blood for Oil' in Iraq, and now evidence has come to the light of day, US Death Squads have been employed! Employees of the 'Talkers', secret paid killers purchased with Taxpayers Monies!
The following article describes a good reason for the taliban to not talk with the 'devil' talking hell bound killers.
The article about Our Killing Squad:
Tuesday, November 24, 2009
US firm 'runs covert Pakistan ops'
Peshawar has borne the brunt of recent Taliban attacks in retaliation for a military offensive [AFP]
A new report has accused the US private security firm formerly known as Blackwater of operating a covert assassination and kidnapping programme against suspected Taliban and al-Qaeda members in northwest Pakistan.
In an article published on Monday, The Nation magazine alleged that the firm, now known as Xe, is also involved in running a US military drone bombing campaign out of Pakistan.
Jeremy Scahill, the investigative journalist who broke the story, told Al Jazeera on Tuesday that the programme was so secretive that senior officials in the administration of Barack Obama, the US president, were likely unaware of it.
'What I learned is that for years there has been a covert operation of the US military inside Pakistan’s borders ... and that Blackwater operatives are at the centre of not only the drone bombing campaign but also planning snatch-and-grab operations of high value targets.'
Hunting bin Laden
Scahill, citing military intelligence sources and a former Blackwater official, said the programme began with an agreement between the US and Pakistani governments.
'In 2006, the Bush administration struck a deal with the government in Islamabad that would allow US special forces to actually enter Pakistani territory if what they were doing was hunting Osama bin Laden or his top deputies.
'The agreement was such that the Pakistanis said that they would have the right to deny that they had given permission.'
There was no immediate comment from Islamabad on the story, and Scahill said that the White House also failed to respond to his request for comment.
But he said the office of Admiral Mike Mullen, the chairman of the US Joint Chiefs of Staff, had contacted him to reject the allegations.
'I did not call them, they called me and told me that the [allegations] did not stand up to reality,' Scahill said.
'I’ve talked to my sources though, and they say that it’s possible that officials within the military chain of command are simply not in what [they] called 'the circle of love' on this programme.'
US officials have said that they believe northwest Pakistan is a hiding place for al-Qaeda fighters, including Osama Bin Laden.
Blackwater blamed
The northwest tribal region, and in particular Peshawar, the capital of the North West Frontier Province (NWFP), have borne the brunt of attacks perpetrated by the Taliban in recent weeks.
The attacks are in apparent retaliation for a military offensive launched in the country’s semi-autonomous tribal region of South Waziristan against members of the Tehreek-e-Taliban Pakistan, one of the main anti-government groups.
But a spokesman for the Taliban last week blamed Blackwater for at least two of the recent bombings.
Azam Tariq posted a video statement on the internet, saying the Taliban attacks never aimed to target civilians and that the explosions were linked to Blackwater activities in the country.
Xe has denied having any contracts in Pakistan.
The North Carolina-based firm provides security for diplomats around the world, but it is facing charges of human rights violations stemming its part from a 2007 shooting in Iraq that left 17 civilians dead.
Comment: Seems more likely the lil bush gang relied successfully, so far, on the messianics, believing the rhetoric of lies! Blackwater is in Pakistan, common knowledge! Blackwater was there secretly, more common knowledge, secretly! Blackwater is running Drone Operations, common knowledge! Blackwater has Immunity, common knowledge!
What’s known is enough for a complete and transparent Investigation of How and Who were the Americans that put this together! We also know we are Murdering Peoples for Our Interests! Not Our self-defense!
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Anonymous 11-27-09, 08:55 AM |
The Wacko gang spews.
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Kilemal 11-27-09, 09:50 AM |
Shut your lying mouth,galljdaj
You whine to nausea;liars, cheats and thieves all.All talibs must reap their just reward. DEATH IN HELL !!!
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` ~galljdaj+ 11-27-09, 10:05 AM |
Kilemal, No, I have a question for you
Its clear by you post you want the Taliban dead. So , my question first assumes you are not a US Citizen, and as a non US Citizens why should you advocate we do your killing for you?
Now on the other hand if you are a US Citizen, why should your fellow Citizens become part of your Murders?
And the Big Question, why is 'BLOOD FOR OIL' YOUR CHOICE?
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Anonymous 11-27-09, 10:09 AM |
First ive heard of Blackwater in Pak/afghan. Have to put it down to the media gang whackos looking for storys.
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` ~galljdaj+ 11-27-09, 11:00 AM |
Blackwater in Pakistan...
...has been in the news for months, I believe this site had an Article about the facilities Blackwater took over, or I posted that article regarding the Murders in Pakistan. Even both are possible.
Ignorance on your part, is expected though.
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Mike P. 11-27-09, 11:56 AM |
Taliban Refuse Talks
The Taliban see any form of peace talks with the US, will show a weakness in their resolve.
So, if the Taliban are hell-bent on fighting, then it is our duty to send them to that very hell.
And Galjdaj, I hope you are the first to go.
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NREGISTERED 11-27-09, 01:43 PM |
Are we to believe the source you post from don't have an agenda?
` ~galljdaj+;170719: ...has been in the news for months, I believe this site had an Article about the facilities Blackwater took over, or I posted that article regarding the Murders in Pakistan. Even both are possible.
Ignorance on your part, is expected though.
All you have ever done is posted what you believe to be WRONG with US foreign policy. Never anything but negative hate America and hate Republican hubris. The question is why should anyone believe anything you post most of the crap you post is from source no one believes!
Pro Cuba and Pro Chavez propaganda mills.
Yet you call others ignorant while you wallow in abject ignorance and stupidity.
Your idea of a refute is of two veins name calling and posting more lies from dubious far leftists sources.
At some point you need to grow up and become an adult.
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` ~galljdaj+ 11-27-09, 01:09 PM |
Well mike I don't hold the same animosity for you...
...as I know what you death would smell like!
Lives cut short by greedy leaders smell absolutely the same for both sides! I would much rather see you grow into a productive citizen in stead of the hateful coward afraid to trust in how you got here !
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` ~galljdaj+ 11-27-09, 03:22 PM |
Messianic belief systems...
...like the poster’s(1:43 pm) decide without reading, without using known informations, and a few more withouts, but decide what is 'fact' based on a 'source' and which side they are perceived to be on. Which of course is the source of his, 'we are good therefore, they are bad , displays on this site!
The poor lil boy is constantly faced with the 'bad man trying to hurt me mama! syndrome, and of course has no ability to determine truth or lie other than his messianics, and the source of that is in the hands of the likes of wonderful ronnie, daddy and baby bush, the rumsfelds chenneys and lets not forget the pauls of texas.
A mentally crippled poster unable to find truth but has the tune of the piper fixed in the lil head. What does paul tell you to say about growing up? Stand in line like a man? While he pats you on the head.
Any time you want take one of my posted articles and critique the article, I am ready willing and able to do just that! In the past you ran home and hid when it came to discussing the truth and/or false issues of an article! Once in while you post an unrelated article as some sort retort, but never are you willing to back up your accusations.
Like your last post, you state a truth, that I post what I see as 'wrong'! Then you lie, with your claims of hate being the source of the post.
Honest people read investigate and decide is it true or do I need more information. Where in any of your posts is that process demonstrated? I have never seen it from you. What I have seen, partial truth followed by lies and or falsehoods! Once in awhile an article supporting your falsehood when its off topic. You display the inability to understand an article supporting a falsehood is no argument, and of no value no matter how supportive.
We have seen you use hate against many peoples, justifying all sorts of maladies, the most common being Murdering them! Calling for them to be murdered! You’ve called for my murder! Palestinians Iraqis, Afghanis, Iranians, Pakistanis and Americans that oppose you to be murdered! Cubans and Venezuelans also! Do you call yourself a hater? I have not, I have restrained myself from doing so.
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secret slave 11-27-09, 05:16 PM |
Bush promised to attack Saddam before he was elected president
salaam,
Bush made an oath to his father prior to elections to remove Saddam if he was elected president of USA,
publicly mentioned by Bush in news media questioning accounts.
feeamnellaah
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nregistered 11-28-09, 12:02 AM |
Bad man? You are again of course confused.
As a senile poster I cut you some slack but you really are a liar and a fool.
olFart: ...like the poster’s(1:43 pm) decide without reading, without using known informations, and a few more withouts, but decide what is 'fact' based on a 'source' and which side they are perceived to be on. Which of course is the source of his, 'we are good therefore, they are bad , displays on this site!
The poor lil boy is constantly faced with the 'bad man trying to hurt me mama! syndrome, and of course has no ability to determine truth or lie other than his messianics, and the source of that is in the hands of the likes of wonderful ronnie, daddy and baby bush, the rumsfelds chenneys and lets not forget the pauls of texas.
A mentally crippled poster unable to find truth but has the tune of the piper fixed in the lil head. What does paul tell you to say about growing up? Stand in line like a man? While he pats you on the head.
Any time you want take one of my posted articles and critique the article, I am ready willing and able to do just that! In the past you ran home and hid when it came to discussing the truth and/or false issues of an article! Once in while you post an unrelated article as some sort retort, but never are you willing to back up your accusations.
Like your last post, you state a truth, that I post what I see as 'wrong'! Then you lie, with your claims of hate being the source of the post.
Honest people read investigate and decide is it true or do I need more information. Where in any of your posts is that process demonstrated? I have never seen it from you. What I have seen, partial truth followed by lies and or falsehoods! Once in awhile an article supporting your falsehood when its off topic. You display the inability to understand an article supporting a falsehood is no argument, and of no value no matter how supportive.
We have seen you use hate against many peoples, justifying all sorts of maladies, the most common being Murdering them! Calling for them to be murdered! You’ve called for my murder! Palestinians Iraqis, Afghanis, Iranians, Pakistanis and Americans that oppose you to be murdered! Cubans and Venezuelans also! Do you call yourself a hater? I have not, I have restrained myself from doing so.
With all that long post you have yet to ever prove me wrong.
The amazing thing is the more you twist to NOT answer simple questions the more you prove me right.
You post nonsense and call it truth!
You then use leftist/marxist/commuinist propaganda sources that always have a base motive of destroying Americas credibility.
To make it all the more pathetic and laughable you then say your attempting to some noble mission yet all you have done is proven your hatred of America, Republicans, George Bush and Ronald Wilson Regaen.
In the end all you ever do is look like a fool.
Thanks old fart you have actually exposed yourself with your own warped writing cowardly writing we call that projection.
Thanks!
I got a good laugh at how important you think you are.
Your not a bad man your just pathetic and wrong.
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tj 11-27-09, 09:36 PM |
I hate
I hate you...I have killed many of your people and would love to see you join them in my sights. Bang Bang is the sound I love, and the recoil is all I feel
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